ASRS REPORT: 80111
| Data Source |
AVIATION SAFETY REPORTING SYSTEM |
| Report Number |
80111 |
| Local Date |
01-JAN-88 |
| Local Time |
1801-2400 |
Synopsis
ACR-LGT ALT DEVIATION CROSSING RESTRICTION NOT MET.
Assessment
| Event Primary Problem |
HUMAN FACTORS |
| General Results |
NONE REPORTED / TAKEN |
Anomaly Information
| Alt Deviation Anomaly Desc |
CROSSING RESTRICTION NOT MET |
| In-Flight event Anomaly Desc |
WEATHER / TURBULENCE |
| Anomaly Detected - Person Desc |
FLIGHT CREW |
Location Information
| Loc State Code |
DE |
| Loc Ref ATC Name |
DQO |
| Reference ID Distance (nm) |
25 |
| Altitude MSL - Single Value(ft)
| 24000 |
Environmental Information
| Weather Conditions |
VMC |
| Light Condition |
NIGHT
|
AIRCRAFT INFORMATION
Aircraft 1
| Acft Make/Model Desc |
LARGE TRANSPORT, LOW WING, 3 TURBOJET ENG |
| Acft Operator Desc |
AIR CARRIER |
| Acft Flight Mission |
PASSENGER |
| Acft Flight Phase |
DESCENT |
| Acft Flight Plan |
IFR |
| Flight Crew Count |
3 |
PERSON INFORMATION
Information For Person Sequence 1
| Reporting Organization |
AIR CARRIER |
| Flt Crew Exp (last 90 days) |
75 |
| Flt Crew Exp |
1500 |
| Flt Crew Function |
PILOT FLYING |
| Flt Crew Qual Desc |
INSTRUMENT |
Narrative
WE WERE EBND ON J-8 TO PAILS INTXN. WE HAD APPROX 150K OF TAILWIND IN CRUISE (IE, VERY HIGH GND SPD). WE WERE GIVEN CLRNC TO CROSS 25 NM W OF DUPONT VOR AT 24000'. THE CLRNC CAME VERY LATE BASED ON OUR GND SPD. WE STARTED AN IMMEDIATE DSCNT (FROM 33000') AND HAD ONLY REACHED FL310 WHEN 25 NM W OF DUPONT. CENTER WAS AWARE OF THE PROB AND GAVE US MUCH MORE ADVANCED WARNING OF FUTURE XING RESTRICTIONS. SINCE THE FLT WAS LATE IN THE EVENING AND THE WINDS HAD BEEN HIGH ALL DAY, I FEEL WE COULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN MORE ADVANCED WARNING OF THE FIRST XING RESTRICTION. I HAVE SELDOM EXPERIENCED SUCH HIGH TAILWINDS IN FLT, SO PERHAPS I COULD HAVE TOLD CENTER WE WANTED TO START DOWN EARLY OR PERHAPS TELL THEM WE WOULD HAVE A PROB GETTING TO THE XING ALT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 80117: WE WERE IN CRUISE AT FL330 WITH A 150 KT DIRECT TAILWIND AND DIDN'T PLAN OUR DSCNT CORRECTLY TO MEET ALT RESTRICTION. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 80490: WE HAD A 150K TAILWIND AND DIDN'T PLAN OUR DSCNT CORRECTLY.
Information For Person Sequence 2
| Reporting Organization |
AIR CARRIER |
| Flt Crew Exp (last 90 days) |
250 |
| Flt Crew Total Exp |
3000 |
| Flt Crew Function |
FIRST OFFICER |
| Flt Crew Qual Desc |
FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR |
Narrative
Information For Person Sequence 3
| Reporting Organization |
AIR CARRIER |
| Flt Crew Exp (last 90 days) |
200 |
| Flt Crew Total Exp |
2500 |
| Flt Crew Function |
FLIGHT ENGINEER / SECOND OFFICER |
| Flt Crew Qual Desc |
INSTRUMENT |
Narrative
END REPORT